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You can leave messages at User_talk:Curps. I'll ask if I think of some questions, but in the meantime, if you like, you can just modify and add to any page you want (your English is not bad at all). It might be interesting to have pages for La Silla Observatory and Paranal Observatory, and there's already a VLT page and a European Southern Observatory if there's any details that you wish to add.

-- Curps

For now, I'm concentrating on biographies of astronomers, but maybe later I'll do some pages for observatories like La Silla and Paranal. Or perhaps some other user might get to those first, I think User:Zandperl was creating a small project for telescopes and observatories at Wikipedia:WikiProject_Telescopes.

-- Curps

I added a mention to the Dictionary of Minor Planet Names at the bottom of List of asteroids, with the ISBN number of the 5th edition. Wikipedia turns the ISBN number into a link that people can click on to buy it from various online bookstores. I'm in Montreal by the way.

For my part, I have been to France but not Germany, nor have I ever been to the southern hemisphere. You mentioned ALMA, I just noticed someone created a page for it last month (Atacama Large Millimeter Array).

I only mentioned the IIIaF because some webpages seem to reference this as part of the name of the survey. Anyway, it's probably too much detail for this article, maybe if a separate "Red Survey" page is ever created, it can go into detail about what equipment and photographic material was used. Astronomy is just an interest of mine, I'm not a professional or even amateur astronomer (near a city the conditions are not very good for observing).

At the Hans-Emil Schuster page, there is a list of asteroids discovered (I am trying to add such a list for each asteroid discoverer). I notice that some of the later discoveries are numbered but not yet named. I'm curious, are you planning to name these?

Also, do you know of any other sky surveys, such as the Sloan Digital Sky Survey. At some point it might be useful to create a page listing the major sky surveys historically.

Yes, the asteroids have numbers, as you can see by visiting the bottom of the page Hans-Emil Schuster. The numbers are 11789, 12211, 26074, 46514, 73640. Some of these are fairly high numbers, so perhaps the orbits were only precisely calculated recently for some of these. Especially 73640, sounds like it was only numbered this year or last (since 69230 Hermes was only recovered in 2003, and 73640 is an even higher number).

Yes, naming the sky surveys would be a big project. For now I'm still just doing some astronomer's biographies, that's plenty of work for now.

You're right, the article is long enough not to be a stub anymore. The "stub" message was just left over from the beginning, and I forgot to take it out. Curps 01:03, 6 Jun 2004 (UTC)

While doing a bit of asteroid categorization I noticed that Toutatis is listed on Apollo asteroid, but that the article 4179 Toutatis itself identifies it as an Alinda asteroid. I wondered if it could be a member of both or if this was an indication of a mistake, and Curps suggested I bring the question to you since you're an expert on such things. Bryan 07:54, 16 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Hello again,

Do you by any chance have access to IAU Circulars? In particular, IAUC 8298... it's supposed to be online at [1] but for some reason it's not available.

There's an article on transits of Phobos and Deimos I'd be interested in. I have a page on Transit of Deimos from Mars and was wondering if the times generated by JPL Horizons match what the authors of the article write.

-- Curps 08:34, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

User:Wikibob posted a link to a DVI version of IAUC 8298 to my talk page, so I was able to read it. I don't know why they don't have an HTML version, but it looks the problem is solved. Thanks in any case. -- Curps 20:25, 20 Jun 2004 (UTC)

I think it was just an inadvertent omission that they didn't have the HTML version of IAUC 8298, since they have HTML versions of nearly all the other IAU Circulars.

I think HTML is evolving into XHTML but it's still more or less the same thing, and still standard. You only need things like PDF files if it's important to preserve exact formatting to reproduce the exact look of a printed page.

-- Curps 14:02, 21 Jun 2004 (UTC)


Wikipedia is published under the "GNU FDL" or "Free Doc License" (maybe you can see a button for it at the bottom left of the page). This means that other websites are free to copy the contents of Wikipedia under the terms of this license, and as a result there are many "clone" sites that do so. No doubt is one of them.

If I had to guess what the problem was, it's that "Paranal" contains within it the letters "anal", which can be a dirty word in English. They were probably using a very simplistic automated filter program to censor any content which might be considered harmful for children. I hope that their webmaster has corrected this. Of course automated programs like this don't have human intelligence or judgment, but just blindly filter certain combinations of letters.

If necessary, you can just copy-and-paste the reply from to my talk page, and I can delete it after reading it.

Sorry for the delay in replying. I have been a little less active recently here on Wikipedia, but I will usually check for messages at least once a week.

-- Curps 23:37, 31 Aug 2004 (UTC)


It was user Urhixidur who made the recent changes (and he already added the information about 2018 Schuster. I wasn't active on Wikipedia for many months, but might find some time soon to work on it a bit more. -- Curps 07:32, 19 Dec 2004 (UTC)

T. Fujii and K. Watanabe[edit]

Sorry for the delay, Urhixidur inquired about these two guys and I didn't reply because I was away from Wikipedia for a few months. I notice you also contributed.

In any case, I finally replied.

-- Curps 01:38, 21 Dec 2004 (UTC)

To send a message, you can just use User talk:Curps as usual, or you can just create a page at User:Curps/Desertsky if you want. I can delete it after if necessary. -- Curps 12:55, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

OK, let me know when the names are approved.

I have been editing articles on topics other than astronomy for a while, but edited a few recently. For instance I just created flare star today. If you have any opinions about it, let me know. 1987 CA sounds like an interesting one. -- Curps 13:59, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

PS, when you leave a message, you can just type ~~~~ to leave your signature... the software automatically changes this to your username and a timestamp. -- Curps 13:59, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

By the way, someone created a Meanings of asteroid names page (and various associated pages). It might be useful to add the meanings for your asteroids. What is 2275 Cuitlahuac named for? -- Curps 14:08, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

FLARE STAR looks fine, CUITLAUHAC there should be someting in "google"??

14:12, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)~

If you have any colleagues in Georgia (the country, not the US state), perhaps you could ask them about M. A. Vashakidze... a crater on the Moon is named for him, but I don't have an exact date of birth and death, and don't know his full name (maybe Mikhail?, but what does the "A." stand for?) -- Curps 14:17, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

PS, I'll have to step away from the computer for a little while soon. -- Curps 14:17, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

more definite: look with GOOGLE under my name HANS-EMIL SCHUSTER then page two about is someting about CUITLAUHAC (Aztec leader,chief)

MOON CRATER I will try

14:26, 10 Mar 2005 (UTC)

OK. The Moon crater thing isn't very urgent, it's just that there is very little information online for that particular person M. A. Vashakidze. -- Curps 09:37, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)

hello CURPS: moon crater question VASHKIDZE: there exists a fine source;(a book) Astronomers I.G.Kolchinsky editors Naukova Dumka ; 1986 in Kiew in Russian, as I am told. this book should be an exellent source and somebody of the Wiki members may have knowledge of Russian; I do not know how far citation may be used, but maybe if the source is given it maybe OK ?

the same source problem is valid for the Names of Minor Planets, the is the exellent compilation of my friend Lutz Schmadel,DICTIONARY of MINOR PLANET NAMES, now on CD-rom and permanently updated as far as I know;

about "my" planets no nws yet, maybe end of March/April

hope this information helps, DESERTSKY 15:18, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

Actually I can read Russian, I studied the language years ago. But I think it would be difficult to obtain this book, no? In any case, it's not really so urgent, it's only one crater out of many... it would be interesting to know, but not an urgent gap in Wikipedia. What is the title of the book by the way?
Good luck with your minor planets... I think they imposed a new limit on naming recently: only two names per discoverer every two months. So if you have three to name, you might need to do it in two steps.
If you know Lutz Schmadel well, perhaps you could ask him to supply some biographical information? Our article on him is really very small. -- Curps 20:00, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

hello Curps,

the title of the book is "astronomers"

I know about the two names only limit, so the next two ones (if permitted) will be given names during March/April session) 1978 CA is not yet numbered, but it may happen soon, then my storage of planets is exhausted and I maybe busy only with proposals for names of other discoverers in case they do not propose themselves

I will talk to Lutz Schmadel, he is an exellent astronomer but he is not spoiled by vanity, so in any case I will talk to him first before giving information; I will try to convince him to do it himself; by the way I did the same ref Richard West, and told him to get directly in contact with you giving more information as his article still is a stub I assume.

regards DESERTSKY 21:11, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

I think I have found the book reference in Russian:

Колчинский И.Г., Корсунь А.А., Родригес М.Г. Астрономы: Биогр. справ. Киев: Наукова думка, 1986.

I'll see if I can find it in any online Russian bookstores. It might be out of print though. Thanks very much for the information.

We have an article for Richard Martin West, I think maybe he has some minor planets still not named:

(9272) 1979 KQ 
(10462) 1979 KM 
(10668) 1976 UB1
(11005) 1980 PP1
(12188) 1978 PE 
(12198) 1980 PJ1
(14350) 1985 VA1
(15201) 1976 UY
(15207) 1979 KD 
(20995) 1985 VY 
(22252) 1978 SG
(26081) 1980 PT1
(27667) 1979 KJ 
(34998) 1978 SE
(65661) 1985 VB1
(79086) 1977 RD

If he can't think of any names, I see that there is no asteroid named "Wikipedia" yet :-)

By all means, it would be great if Lutz Schmadel would be willing to supply some more information about his professional career.

-- Curps 23:58, 14 Mar 2005 (UTC)

hi Curps I have contacted both Richard West and Lutz Schmadel to take care for their Wiki entrances, I took the freedom to advise them both to register and to take up contact with you, maybe once they learn Wiki procedure they may edit themselves, but I advised them both first to contact you via Curps,

hope you agree, DESERTSKY 10:43, 15 Mar 2005 (UTC)~~

asteroid 46514[edit]

OK, it's done (and the Kurd Lasswitz article too). -- Curps 08:43, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

OK, no problem. If you are in touch with Richard West, maybe you can ask him if he wants to name some of his asteroids. :-) -- Curps 15:46, 11 Apr 2005 (UTC)

Eridanus Globular Cluster[edit]

I have added a mention of this to the article, thanks very much for the additional information. -- Curps 14:03, 8 August 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

Horologium Dwarf = Schuster's Spiral[edit]


There is a galaxy called "Schuster's Spiral" or "Horologium Dwarf", with HIPASS name J0359-45. I suspect this was discovered by William John Schuster (and P.E. Nissen), but perhaps it was you? -- Curps 16:26, 12 August 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]

NO !! William John is a collegue; there is atleast one Schuster more around in Astronomy; forgotten his christian name; apart from famous Arthur Schuster whose name is often mentioned in connect- ion with Schwarzschild, there maybe more but with my rather rare christian name "Hans-Emil" no confusion will happen,

thanks for your careful attention, HES Desertsky 2005 August 16th

OK, I've edited your page to clarify that it's a different Schuster. -- Curps 06:15, 16 August 2005 (UTC)Reply[reply]